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Featured Hero event nerf

Featured Hero event nerf

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Article Publish : 09/27/2022 15:23
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What a marketing!

Making tabs, so looks like you can get more hero/hero shards BUT no or only if you pay much more!

All milestone rewards reduced:

  • 10>5 (200 points)
  • 30>15 (400 points)
  • 50>30 (800 points)
  • 120>80 (1200 points)
  • 180>200 (1800 points)
  • 250>280 (2500 points)
  • ....

1200 points is the threshold, that a ''free player'' can reach with spending a tons of diamonds. After this threshold only topaz help you. 210 shards (now 130) guaranteed, if you lucky, one event, if you not, two event and you got a new hero (not anymore).

Well, it's suck for a topaz player too, but as you see if you spend more you will get more (or you think). (i can't check the last two milestone) So, for now, sum the columns. 640 shards > 610 shards, not that much, but it's less.

in summary: We were given a few options, but we have to pay more to get something (something less). ''Free'' players chance killed.


ps: a few months ago the number of tickets was reduced, which we received for daily login

(angel's fortune, angel's tower too got a nerf in last half year)

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louai.hamodeh
louai.hamodeh
3 years ago
#1

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fenghuang
fenghuang
3 years ago
#2

Hello

It's true that several events have become marginally more expensive lately, however comparing the monthly diamond income of a f2p player 3 years ago to now you'll find we make almost twice as much. From 57k to 100k diamonds a month and you can climb even higher if you wish to grind Nether Wars etc.

In FH we now have to go 1200 points in the 1st FH of a new hero and a few additional draws in their 2nd if the 1st one wasn't enough. On average the cost has gone up by 3-6k diamonds depending on luck. Thankfully healers are being released before tanks in the new hero tiers so not having the new hero from their first FH right away isn't disastrous.

A f2p player that prioritizes Angel's Fortune, doesn't waste diamonds on hero augment in FH and spends most of their diamonds in Egg Cracker and Angel's Tower performs very well on the average X-Server cluster with sufficient patience. I'm 3rd in both actual performance and BR on mine as f2p and it's a relatively active cluster. Took about one year out of the four I've been playing to get to that point.

All that said you're free to send in suggestions to the devs via the support system or the suggestion system on our Discord. Quite a few suggestions make it through to being considered and quite a few have been implemented as well. I would avoid recency bias if you do, however, as we do have it pretty good on the whole due to the aforementioned income improvements. Especially when compared to other gacha and freemium type games.

Regards,

Chozo - Trainee Mod

ftpftw
ftpftw
3 years ago
#3

Man I rly hate typing more than 10 words in a reply but just this once

Dear trainee mod you do realise that with every new nerf every new paywall the actual value of a diamond drops so what if you make 100k dias a month you may make 1mil it changes nothing if you can't do shit with them...

Regarding FH yes you can still get new hero in 2 event instead of 1 most of the time as FTP but if you look at the bigger picture you would see that events are scheduled in a way that major pvp events apex grail sometimes ws comes right after 1st FH of a new hero and finishes before it's second FH and if you don't get the new hero in 1st FH that puts you at a disadvantage versus those who got it in most of the cases (not all new heroes are worthy to be used) you may think you would catch up next month but there is a new hero and the same story all over again... So first FH is crucial

I do agree that playing FH to get some hero stars is a mistake for FTP but your mentioned alternatives have also been nerfed unreasonably lately. In cracker they pretty much cut the rank rewards by half for the 2nd and 3rd cracker of a new pet and drop rate from silver eggs is just well pathetic I did 5k on 2 previous crackers and got around 20 shards from each event from drops there so 100k dias for 40 shards there is no way that makes up for the nerfed rank rewards not to mention that in dead clusters (which are most of the clusters) it's usualy around 3k pts that gets you a win so if you compare cracker before and after nerfs you would also see that the cost for the same amount of a new pet shards increased drasticly.

As for tower well it's even worse. Soul armors are very important in pvp and we can't even get them in 2 events as FTPs and there is no 3rd or more events for them unlike the other features in game. I do usualy do max attempts you can get with diamonds and it usualy gets me around a half of the amount needed to combine new soul armor. Thats still better than nothing you might think well not so sure about that. Those shards are sitting in inventory useless and it takes several months for them to be availabe in shops or in a reasonable offers in events but by that time there are new soul armors with better skills and the story goes on keeping you at a massive disadvantage the whole time and the the diamonds you spent are pretty much for nothing...

When I see a mod saying "you are free to suggest this or that" it automaticaly translates into "go f yourself" we all know that 99% doesn't get through and those that do are obvious ones that devs would implement at some point even without suggesting.

fenghuang
fenghuang
3 years ago

Hello
Not at all. I've had several suggestions go through, some of them instantly. Most recent example being when they removed Soul Flasks in SS Tyc. As f2p I need two common resources to be able to get a decent score in SS Tyc so I suggested they bring the Soul Flasks back and by the next SS Tyc they were.
Regards,
Fenghuang - Trainee Mod

ftpftw
ftpftw
3 years ago

@fenghuang

And that was what 4-5 months ago? Mind sharing another more recent example?

fenghuang
fenghuang
3 years ago

@ftpftw

Sure, that was just from me on the Discord. Just recently we managed to get them to increase the daily buy limit in the Heavenly Shop, expand Magic Circle and make Fireblaze Unicorn obtainable again.Personally I tend to suggest more complicated additions like making Soul Armors viewable on enemies, which was implemented (though I actually wanted them visible on the quick battle screen that was likely too hard to implement), or like giving us a complete breakdown of stats on the hero screen so that we know how much Damage Increase %, Damage Reduction % and secondary stats (Hit, Dodge, Resil, Crit, Pierce, Block) we have and from which sources.The Discord has been vital in learning and teaching about the more complicated parts of the game, for instance we had no idea in-battle DR from skills is capped at 95% while DI is uncapped and both are uncapped from other sources. When Raven was released the admin shed light on this because we were talking about her passive so much and whether it'd have any impact at all.Regards,
Fenghuang - Trainee Mod

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norde
norde
3 years ago
#4

''From 57k to 100k diamonds''

  • +100 +100 +200 +200 for daily sing-in where you get diamonds (if you have vip1 v5 v9 v13 diamondsx2) (max: 1200)
  • +850 for sing-in 30 times (max: 850)
  • +100 for total online 5 mins (*30days, max: 3000)
  • +200 for total online 10 mins (*30days, max: 6000)
  • +1800 for super login (max: 1800)
  • +210 for activity points chest (*30days, max: 6300)
  • +50 for activity tasks (*30days, max: 1500)
  • +500 for lv7 weekly chest (*4weeks, max: 2000)
  • +950 for desktop app pass (max: 950)
  • +200 for angel pass (max: 200)
  • +300 for world boss (*30days, max: 9000)
  • +9700 for all nether wars rewards, except rank rewards (max: 9700)
  • +13000 for Angel's Fortune, you can always reach 20k points to claim 30k diamonds, but you have to pay 5660*3=16980 diamonds, so your profit +13k. (max: 13000)
  • +15000 for Angel's Fortune, well, you have to be damn lucky to reach 35k points and claim both. It's rare, so hard to count in.
  • +~4000, there are events where you get +100 +150 .. for login day1-2.
  • +???? Angel's lucky diamonds, you have 4 rolls, but you pay in diamonds, so you don't get that much. I found a one year old guide: (cost:88 [136-188], cost:388 [449-488], cost:888 [1010-1088]...)
  • +???? mini events, like angel cards (+4000), angel dice(+????)..
  • +875 for chess hero (*4weeks, max: 3500)


Any other sources?


Nether Wars: I think a f2p won't get any rewards from it. Why? You will be the most useless thing on the battlefield, while 100-200-400...bn players kick your ass and win. Anytime when I pick up 1 or 2 coin, a xxx bn player kick my ass, we could say, you just have to afk and pray for win. in summary, hard to count in any diamond rewards.

Is Angel's Fortune twice in a month? I don't know, never checked how often it comes.

57.3k (if Angel's Fortune once in a month)

70.3k (if Angel's Fortune twice in a month)

+9700 if we realy wanna count nether wars

Still not 100k.


Angel's Tower, as I remember, if you bought all hammers for diamonds and completed all quests for hammers, you could use 103 hammers. and if i'm right, you could obtain super prize even if you were 40-50-60-100th in rank. Now you can have 51 hammers. So we can argue which one waste more diamonds, FH or Tower.


and everything that ftpftw wrote, I like it. But what is FTP?😶

ftpftw
ftpftw
3 years ago

Free to play in this games a player who doesn't recharge

fenghuang
fenghuang
3 years ago

Hello
Old chart but I think I've updated most of it.Weekly diamonds:Guild War weekly points: 250 for 1st place
Arena Weekly placement: 600 for 1st place
Guild Contribution: 375 for all chests
Online gift: 2100
World Boss: 3850 (3rd place)
Activity quests: 1470
Elite Quests: 210
Arena Quest: 140
Weekly Chest: 500
Gold Cycle quest: 70
Chess Hero: 875
Daily sign-in: 2100
GTA weekly sign-in: 100
Patch day benefits: 175
Sell Hellhound Mount: 70
X-Hero betting: 125 (500 a month)
Hero Salute: 233 (50 per day on eligible days)
X-Hero Champion Salute: 75
Ancient Treasure: 750 (11500 every 2 weeks)
Angel Pass: 130 (200d + 1 temp mount & 1 temp outfit to sell every 2 weeks)
X-Server League spoils: 200 (2nd tier spoil chests, 2x100d averaged out)
Lucky Diamonds: 600 (1200 average per event twice a month)
Nether Wars: 2175 (challenger and top 100 twice a month)
X-Tyc ranking: 750 (3k a month for top 20 daily rank)
Angel's Fortune: 6500
Seasonal Premium Pass with Topaz from Roses: 1050 (9/12 months of the year)25.25k a week. I don't play NW or Chess personally. Of course some of this is contextual, though a lower rank in e.g. WB doesn't impact the monthly total by much.Regards,
Fenghuang- Trainee Mod

norde
norde
3 years ago

@fenghuang

There is some funny (wrong) number and funny method. We were talking about F2P. World boss rank? All target has 10b more or much more br than me. etc etc..
That's why doesn't worth the time talk about something or write a suggestion.
I shouldn't have stayed from the start of the server.

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